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service. if you focus on the meat and potatoes of every family's life, making sure that there's a job, that their kids can go to good schools, that they feel a feeling of safety, i guess, more than anything, they say that they feel comfort tanl, next week they are going to be able to keep their house, make ends meet. >> joe donnelly, we have to go. thank you so much. that's "hardball" for now. "politicsnation" with al sharpton starts right now. >> thanks, chris, and thanks to you for tuning in. tonight's lead, yes, he did. this election was a debate over what kind of country we want. and in winning the national argument about government, president obama won a great victory for the forces of liberalism in this country. right now the first lady is on their way back to the white house, knowing it's their home for the next four years. we may see them arrive later
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this hour. president obama now knows that the american people have voted for his vision, a vision where everyone gets a fair shot. last night, the american people said they stand with the president on his vision of a liberal democratic governance, on taxes, on medicare, on health care. this was an election about the fundamentals of our nation, about what kind of people we want to be. >> that's why elections matter. it's not small. it's big. it's important. democracy in a nation of 300 million can be noisy and messy and it necessarily stirs passions, stirs of controversy. that won't change after tonight.
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and it shouldn't. these arguments we have are a mark of our liberty. we can never forget that as we speak, and a chance to argue about the issues that matter, the chance to cast their ballots like we did today. across the kwournt tree, americans followed the president's example, and chose to be more open-minded and 32 times before passing, in three states last night, in minnesota, voters and we sent a record number of women to the united states senate and no wonder we're optimistic. you, the american people reminded us that while our road
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has been hard, while our journey has been long, we have picked ourselves up. we have fought our way back and we know that in our hearts that for the united states of america, the best is yet to come. >> the best is yet to come we saw that in the most diverse in american history. he won the women's vote by 11 points. he won more than 7 in 10 latino votes and his campaign revolutionized how elections are won. all together, he solidified his place in history as a leader of a democratic movement. joining me now is senior strategist for the obama campaign, david axelrod.
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david, first, thanks so much for coming on the show tonight. >> sure. good to be with you. >> and congratulations. it was a great, great night. >> let me ask you something. when did you know for sure that you could win this election yesterday in. >> you're talking about during the day yesterday or during the course of this campaign? >> let's start within the course of the campaign. >> you know, i've got to tell you -- and i know it sounds maybe preposterous to some, i always had confidence that we would win this campaign. i was confident because the notion that we should build an economy that's centered around the middle class and those that are fighting to get into the middle class, that that's how you build a strong economy, not from the top down, not through trickle down and i believed in him and ultimately, you know,
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it's not just about the positions you take. it's about the two people who are running. and at the end of the day, the american people, even those who disagree with him, i think they respect this president, like him, and trust and one of the big issues that i think bubbled up in these exit polls yesterday was the issue of trust. so, you know, i had confidence, though i knew it was going to be a close race. our campaign knew it was going to be close and we built a campaign for those states. we had a tremendous network of people working and knocking on doors, talking to people. we knew who our voters were. we registered voters at a pegidus rate and it paid off yesterday. >> now, if you win florida, you have run the table. did you think it was possible to do that and what made the difference? was it money?
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was it the amount of volunteers and think was possible to most of the pundits in. >> the interesting thing on money, and i think this is a good thing on democracy, there was more money on the other side, particularly at the end of the campaign we saw the republican forces spend over $100 million just in the last week on tv which is good for your bosses but not necessarily for democracy and, you know, the great thing about this is that when you think about it, the billionaires, special interests, defeating the president, in turning the house and what we saw was not just the president
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re-elected but we have more democrats in the house even though they retain control. what do they get for all of that money? i bet there are a lot of angry and they have the millions of volunteers across this country in the great organization and we executed well. not just off election day but in the year and a half leading up to election day. >> now, you heard senator mcconnell last night saying that, well, the american people voted that they wanted to see certain things basically along partisan lines and then boehner
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said we need to work to come to the table. what do you think is going to happen and we've heard this before. let me play to you boehner and get your reaction. let me play speaker boehner to you. >> okay. >> mr. president, this is your moment. we're ready to be led. not as democrats or republicans but as americans. we want you to succeed. let's challenge ourselves for the common ground that has eluded us and do the right thing together for our country. >> did they say things before that didn't end up with republicans in the house, is the fact that now the president has run for re-election, does that change things? has the fever broken? do you think that they are at a place now where we can get something done or is the gridlock going to reappear? >> well, i hope not.
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only time will tell. but this is a welcome tone. you know, four years ago on the night of the inauguration, 15 republican leaders, mostly in the house, got together to talk about how they could bring down the administration and defeat the president. if they start this new administration with a different attitude, i think that would be very, very positive because ultimately the american people will want us to get things done. they are not interested in hyper partisanship. they are not interested in these kinds of search and destroy missions, one party against the other. they want progress. and so we'll see -- there will obviously be a series of issues that will come up. one thing i would say about the speaker's remarks, though, in our democracy, the responsibility is shared. and so it's not enough to sit back and say to the president, we want to be led. the president has made a
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proposal, for example, on deficit reduction that is substantive and meaningful. and he's willing to entertain other ideas. but if your attitude is we're simply going to oppose, then it's hard to get things done. so we'll see, as i said, time will tell. >> you mentioned the word trust, the american people trusting the president. can the president trust this crowd? can he trust speaker boehner after what happened last time? >> well, what is it that ronald reagan said about the soviets? trust but verify? i think that's probably a good policy here because it's not -- words are not enough. actions are what matter. the president has had some success over the last four years putting together bipartisan coalitions. that was certainly true on ending don't ask, don't tell, on cutting taxes for small businesses.
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there's a number of things in which there has been some cooperation and now the question is, can we build on that? and like i said, those words are well-received and now we just want the actions to follow the words. >> what do you feel will be the things the president wants to achieve? what will be his priorities in the next four years? where do you think he want to go and bring the country? >> well, you know, i don't think you should expect the president to deviate from the fundamental principles from what he's campaigned on. we want to continue to build up our education system so it's the best in the world and make access to higher education or some kind of technical training available to every american so that they can earn good middle class salaries and support their family as and have some research
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in technology and innovation because that's where the good jobs come from. we want to lead the world in clean energy because that's a way that we can get control of our energy future and also create good jobs. and we want to end the war in afghanistan and do nation building here at home. so he'll follow, i think on all of those things, a near term challenge which is to deal with the fiscal issues that we're going to be confronting at the beginning of the year. i think that work begins immediately and there's one issue, reverend, that i think we ought to be able to move on very, very quickly, and that is immigration reform. when i came to washington with the president in 2009, he sat down in a room with members of congress, both republicans and democrats, who had supported comprehensive immigration reform in the past and sid, i want to work with you. let's lock arms and get this done. and then a policy decision was made by the republican leadership that they were not going to play and they didn't want to move on this issue
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because they didn't want to antagonize the most strident voices. they paid a big price for that. you mentioned the overwhelming vote that the president got among latino voter. i think that they are going to have an opportunity to move on that fairly soon. >> david, i've been around the president five or six years. certainly you've been around them more than most. the thing that strikes me is how cool he is under fire. he never -- with all of this ugliness and acrimony, he's never at one time responded and played into the ugliness during this campaign. and the other thing is that he seems to be a big picture thinker. in all of the meetings, he always is kind of above the minute minutia, the day to day transactional things. you've been around him 20 years. you know him better than anyone.
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what has the journey been like and what kind of person is he? is he really that big thinker who would lose his cool and really self-assured? tell us about the -- >> you know, your observations are absolutely right. he doesn't get -- he's never too high and never too low when things go badly he's the first person to get up and say, okay, how are we going to move forward? here's how we need to go, which is a great leadership quality. he keeps his eye on the ball and on the long term. ep doesn't get all distracted by short term static. he has goals and he keep pressing forward and he compels those around him to keep pressing forward to achieve those goals but i would add a third quality and i've seen it -- i'm struck by it mainly because i saw it again today when he spoke to these young
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staff people to thank them at the campaign headquarters. he's an idealist. he believes, as you said last night, that politics is more than a game. politics is the means by which we improve our future and make opportunity broadly available and do the things that are necessary to secure a better life for folks and give them the opportunities to do that for themselves and so what is remarkable about him is that nearly 20 years now, in public life, he are retains that quality and, boy, this this was a moving thing for him to see. the sum total is he's the most consistent human being that i know. the guy i met 20 years ago is
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the guy who i know today and it's comforting when you work for someone, particularly the president, every day when you walk into that oval office you're going to be greeted by the same quality and consistent perform mans. that's a great trait in a leader. >> the president said last night you put together the best team ever been in politics. thanks for your time this evening and congratulations again. >> thanks, rev. good to be with you. we'll be right back.
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barack hussein obama. >> we are now calling the election for -- >> barack obama. >> we are happy. god bless. god bless. we continue in this walk. >> i really believe in him as an african, too. >> congratulations to barack. >> it's the biggest story in the world. the election of president obama. and it's on front pages all across the globe. from germany, yes, he can, again. in sweden, a beaming president
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obama on the front a page. down in panama, four more year. and in month real, the headline says, obama re-elected. al qaeda has even weighed in, vowing death of osama bin laden. it says, do not be joyous with your win of the presidency for a second term obama. and a rejection of an extreme vision for america. voters chose president obama's vision for the future. they chose to reject an extreme ideology, to reject a meanness that dominated politics for two years. joe walsh, allen west, todd akin, and richard mourdock were
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all sent walking. after two years of tea party talk, american voters said, they've had enough. joining me now is former pennsylvania governor ed rendell, now an msnbc political analyst and michelle cottle, washington correspondent for "newsweek" and "the daily bea beast." thank you for being here. america spoke loud and clear last night. what does this say about the rhetoric be that we've seen over the last two years. >> well, i think if the republican party is smart, they are going to take control of the divisiveness but they've also got to take control of themselves because this was, too me, a moral victory in many ways. you and i discussed this and you deserve abundant credit, rev for
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getting this done. but all of the voter suppressions, shortening the days, voter i.d.s, all of those things backfired tremendously. i was in philadelphia and appeared in four black churches on sunday and the voters there, the congregation, they were angry. they were angry because they thought somebody was trying to take away their right to vote and they would have stood online for five hours to vote. that's how angry they were and the republicans got hoisted on their own meanness, on their own attempt to chip away at the american democracy. so it was a great day for so many reasons but to me that was one of the best. >> well, michelle -- and i agree with the governor there but the president, also dominated demographics that i don't think the republicans understand a democratic shift in this country. the president put together a coalition, 95% of the african-american vote. 71% of the latino votes. 73% of the asian vote.
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54% of women. at least ten points more than romney. the coalition he put together was diverse and broad, something the republicans have not been able to appeal to a diverse body of american -- of the american electorate. >> exactly. and you see a lot of republicans out there who are nervous about this themselves. jeb bush and others have talked about how the party needs to stop playing the short game and they need to wake up and think about the fact that this country's getting more diverse and that playing for old, white guys in particular is not a winning strategy if you expect to go into texas in a few year. you've got the latino population growing. you're going to stop having problems in even really red states if you don't try to start broadening your coalition. >> when you see 13 senators who
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said there should not be any ex accepting for abortion even in the case of rape, ten of them lost. what does that say to you? >> if you're a moderate republican, you should take comfort in the fact that, for instance, mourdock lost. he had all of the republicans worried these days about primary fights, getting attacked from their right and that is what happened in that scene. lugar left and we had mourdock and it looked like he was going to prevail and by losing with these kinds of more extreme candidates, it suggests there is still some room for moderate republicans to kind of regroup and take back the party. you know, i think that it's going to be a challenge for them because you are not going to see the tea party backing down but it's got to be done unless this wants to become a really french party. >> but governor we saw last night joe walsh, allen west, tea
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partyiers losing. will this give room for republican -- now more moderate republicans to come forward and take leadership and as the president goes forward, how does he make sure that extreme leftists do not come at him if he goes to the center in his negotiations in dealing with going over the nick cliff? >> well, first of all, i think you're going to have trouble finding any moderate republicans to take charge. that's the problem, rev. there are hardly anybody left. really think about it. no moderates in the senate, maybe jon huntsman out there, couldn't take the mantel of being a moderate republican, jep bush, a few of them. they've got to assert control quickly. in terms of our left, the president has got to be strong. he's got to be strong. he's got to say, look, the mission is important here and the mission is to get this country back on track, to get our economy working again. and if that means we have to
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make some compromises to get the debt under control, reduce the deficit, we're going to have to do it and we're going to only do it by forming a coalition because the republicans control the house and we've got to understand that. so he's got to be able to deliver a strong message to our left and, by the way, all of us have to be on his side on that and there are going to be things that you're not going to like. if we're going to solve this debt crisis, i guarantee there will be things you don't like but you're going to have to say, i understand why the president is doing it. >> well, and we're watching as the president arrives in washington. air force one has landed and we're watching the arrival of the president and the first family in washington, d.c., headed back to the white house as they, again, know that that is their residence for the next four years. governor, i think that you are right, there are going to be some things that all of us don't like. i think the question is, there are some core values that people
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are not going to want to compromise and that people voted for. but will that be easier on the things that they will understand if the ugly rhetoric is not there, governor? >> absolutely. and i think the president's not going to stray from the core values. the president may say to us, look, i have to do this to get at the core value and to protect the core values and you have to understand and we've got to be there for him, including those of us who consider ourselves progressive. we have to understand what the president has to do. he has to make the government work. >> here is the president and sasha and malia and mrs. obama as they now arrive in washington, d.c., coming in from their home in chicago after winning a decisive victory for re-election as the 44th president of the united states. you're watching this live arrival of the obamas returning to washington and headed to the
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white house as they prepare, i'm sure, to get ready to find the second inauguration and for the president to prepare while he's going to deal with the congress and other matters as the head of state and as the commander in chief of the armed services. governor ed rendell and michelle cottle, thanks for your time. coming up, their plan to destroy president obama didn't work. so they are pointing fingers. you won't believe who they are blaming. it's not a democrat. this is "politicsnation," the place for politics, msnbc. and create a next-gen s.u.v. with best-in-class fuel economy of 26 miles per gallon, highway, and best-in-class passenger roominess?
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they there are five stages of grief but for right wingers, there is only one, denial. here is dick morris on sunday. >> we're going to win by a landslide. it will be the biggest surprise in recent political history. my own view is that romney's going to carry 325 electoral votes. >> 325 electoral votes. not even close. but now he says we ended up with an obama squeaker and they started to talk about the
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popular vote, trying to say that the president won, it was legitimate. and the report blasted out headlines trying to get romney more votes and donald trump quoted, he lost the popular vote by a lot and won the election. we should have a revolution in this country. but, of course, president obama won the popular vote. and the biggest denial of all came after fox news called ohio for the president. truly must see tv. >> you went through this in 2000, almost in 2004. do you believe that ohio has been settled? >> no, i don't. >> so you're not saying that obama isn't going to win? >> no. i don't know what the outcome is going to be but we've got to be careful about calling things when we have like 991 votes separating the two candidates. >> now, we know rove isn't an
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objective analysis and he had plenty to be upset about last night. the sunlight foundation studied the rate of a return tax ad. rove's super perform ac american cross roads only had 1% rate of success and crossroads gps only had 13% success. and what happened next was straight out of saturday night live, anchor interrogating the fox pollsters who called ohio for president obama. >> they are way down the haul so we'll do a little interrogation and see if they stand by their call notwithstanding the doubts that karl rove has attempted to place. >> this is the decision desk. we're in the heart of the decision desk room. you tell me wlu stand by your
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last night and he's still standing. joining me now is joe madison, nationally syndicated radio host of "mornings with madison "and nia-malika henderson, national political reporter for "the washington post." thank you for joining me tonight. >> it's good to be here. >> joe, is the republican party broken? is this a party in crisis? >> yes, it is a party in crisis and one of the things is that the adults simply have not shown up to the party. you know, this goes back to one, the southern strategy, richard nixon's administration when the dixicrats were tossed out or left the democratic party they were received in open arms by the republican party and that's why you saw the south all red yesterday. if you remember, lee atwater and
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the willy horton fiasco, even to the point that at his death bed lee atwater apologized to the late brown for the strategy that they used. so they are in disarray. and we talked about this during the whole election return and that is that it's not about including the art of inclusion. you know, you can't get -- like newt gingrich said, five white guys get in a room, decide what they are going to do and their idea of outreach is to invite some black hispanic or woman in telling them what we've decided to do. that's not inclusion. >> no. >> that's not inclusion. >> not at all. nia-malika, though, there's a lot of finger pointing going on. what do you think? >> there is. as know said, there is a lot of finger pointing and this is a party in disarray. you saw over the last many years
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not only the southern strategy in play but a declining reliance, i think, on a realization that america is a diverse country. we saw a decline of 72%. there was a sign among republicans that this was still reagan's america. 88% of the share of the vote was white americans and that is just not the way that america looks right now. if you went to a romney rally, an obama rally, very different crowds romney rallies, much whiter, older american. in turn, the obama rallies, much more diverse. and i think people are surprised that obama was able to run the table on the strength of african-american voters. 15% in ohio, 20% in virginia. even when you talk to republicans now, they do talk about wanting to make inroads into the latino community but you don't hear them say they
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want to make inroads into the latino community. nixon did pretty well among african-american. >> affirmative action started under nixon under art fletcher. joe, let me show you what a lot of people on the right are saying today. watch this. >> kelly, you've got bob dee jindal, nikki haley and it's going to come from them and i think it will be a fairly reagan night and a conservative one and i think the future of the party is quite bright. >> the idea that we have to become more moderate to win an election, that's a pig in a pope. >> they want stuff. they want things. and who is going to give them things? president obama. >> if we're not getting the female vote, do we become pro choice? do we start passing out birth
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control pills? is that what we have to do? >> so between last night and today, their reaction and these are the reactions of some of the right wing, most high-profile people, joe. they don't seem to get it. >> no. and i'll tell you what i said and i'll say it again, they really need to put a muzzle on all those folks you just saw and even some more. put a muzzle on them. because in this day in age, 24 hours a day, seven days a week news cycle, they have become the face and the voice of the republican party and even their children and compete side by side and they are not on top of women and they don't think like that. >> let me ask you this, nia-malika, there's another person being blamed, chris christie. when you look at all of the right-wing blogs and twitter
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from the atlantic saying that chris christie backlash machine revs into high gear. fox news website blames chris christie's throat, dick morris blames chris christie. is christie going to take a political hit on this? >> well, it could be that that happen. i think that he's probably eyeing new jersey and very diverse, a lot of soul searching going on among republicans. i think it's the initial stages. there is a model here. the democrats also suffered some setbacks after that dukakis loss and they looked at their party and tried to expand their party and you've seen that that's paid off in this election. >> joe madison, host of sirius xm, and nia-malika henderson, thank you for your time tonight. >> thank you, reverend. anytime.
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in the hours since president
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obama's victory, he's already called both republican and democratic leaders in congress to say it's time to work on bipartisan solutions. so will republicans be open to that dreaded word "compromise"? joining me now is congressman emanuel cleveland, democrat from missouri and maria teresa kumar, an msnbc contributor. thanks to both of you for being here tonight. >> thank you, reverend. >> good to be with you, reverend. >> congressman, congratulation on your re-election last night. >> thank you. >> congressman, do you think republicans will work with the president on a second term agenda? >> well, you know, i'm not calling anybody a name. i'm just going to use imagery as you and i do in the real world.
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but if a snake does not cast its skin, the snake will eventually be cast into the reptile cemetery. you've got to change or you're going to die. and that's the reality. however, keep in mind that the 87 tea party republicans are still there and having heard earlier today of the tea party spokesperson saying that they lost because they nominated a moderate and a bad candidate and that they need to be more conservative does not bode well for what the nation says it wants, this nation is going to continue to have major economic problem. >> now, i read you tweeted that congress is together as we stand divided we stall. >> absolutely. >> i'm a preacher, reverend.
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>> i'm a witness. you are definitely there. let me ask you, marie too reece sa. the speaker, john boehner, in his statement today was sounding very nonpartisan in his speech that he gave this afternoon. listen to this. >> mr. president, the run majority here in the house stands ready to work with you to do what's best for our country. that is the will of the people and we will answer to them. shoring up entitlements, closing the tax code, closing the loopholes and deductions and moving to a fair and simpler system will bring jobs home and result in a stronger, healthier economy. >> is this a new leaf for john boehner? is it a new john boehner or should we not trust it? >> i think if he had his way, he would get the 87 republicans on his side to do something. i don't think he's an obstructionist however i do think that there's an incredible
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opportunity for the republicans right now and for the president. they have the hard work to do. they have to talk about the fiscal cliff. they have to go ahead and talk about a lot of the entitlement programs but they should talk right now about immigration and this is an opportunity for the republican party to have a come to jesus moment and it solidifies president obama to say, you know, i am the president of the civil rights first talking about don't ask -- repealing don't ask, don't tell, now talking about immigration, our second civil rights movement, and it also solidifies the latino vote for the democratic party for years to come. >> i noticed tonight we had mr. axelrod on and he mentioned immigration and 71% of latinos did vote for the president yesterday. a very large number. congressman cleaver, when you look at the issues facing the congress and this administration, deficit deduction, tax reform, climate change, alternate energy, what
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do you think is the possible bipartisan ent tray to begin this conversation of new spirit in washington? >> well, i think that we've got to be very careful when we start off after we go back next week and that we ought to -- my suggestion to the president and to the leadership in the house is that we not bring up any of the incidiary issues, that we do something rather simple and that everybody can agree on. we should be able to agree on a farm bill having had the worst drought since the dust bowl so it's going to be difficult to come up with that. let me just say, i agree that john boehner wants to make the trains run on time and i think he is an old time ohio politician. it's not him. it's the tea party guys and if they are coming back after this break saying, we are not ready to compromise, we believe that
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compromise is capitulation, then ladies and gentlemen, around this country, it's going to be a rough ride between now and january 1. >> let me ask you, maria, a lot of it is that i don't think that there's a realistic view of how america has shifted. when you look at the fact that in 1953, 98% of the house democratic caucus were white males, today is 53%. next year less than half will be comprised of whites. that's just in the congress, not even dealing with the electorate. i think that some of them are looking at an america that does not exist anymore. >> i actually think that we have to stop keeping -- we have to stop to try and keep the gop -- to get them off the hook. i think they actually know exactly what they are doing and that's one of the reasons when we started talking about when it comes to voter i.d. laws and voter suppression laws, they knew that they had limited time. we don't have a latino vote or black vote. let's make sure that we figure
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moments ago the president and first lady arrived back at the white house. they are home for the next four years. in this election, the gop did everything they could to suppress the vote. irk d. laws, cuts to early voting, intimidating billboards. they tried it all but it didn't work. all over the country you responded, waiting in the cold, waiting in the heat, waiting for hours to carry out your right. in florida, voters waded through thunderstorms, many waited more than three hours after the polls were supposed to close. an

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